Crippled Supply Ships

nimrodd · Post by **nimrodd** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:57 pm

I can't find in the Campaign Guide what happens to a Supply ship when it is crippled. Does it lose it's ability to supply or is it halved or what?

Rainer · Post by **Rainer** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:28 am

Since I could not find anything either, I would go with halved. Both extremes (full abilities or loosing everything) make less sense.

Gareth_Perkins · Post by **Gareth_Perkins** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:50 am

According to 3.6.3.12 (Ships fire) "Combat Factors" are halved when crippled (AS and AF are noted specifically),

According to 1.5 (the glossary) "Combat Factors" are:

When referring to ships and flights, combat factors are the Anti-Ship (AS) value, Anti-Fighter (AF) value, basing capacity, scout functions, supply rating, and towing functions, but it most notably does not include the Defense Value (DV).

It doesn't mention CR, but I would be tempted to include it as well,

MadSeason · Post by **MadSeason** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 2:16 pm

My reading coincides with Gareth's and I also feel CR was mistakenly omitted from the list.

nimrodd · Post by **nimrodd** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:40 pm

I missed seeing that in the Glossary, since I don't consider Supply to be a Combat Factor (it's not used to modify anything during combat), so I didn't look up there.

As far as CR is concerned, I think it is left out of the Combat Factors modified by Crippling, because it would cause a lot of problems during combats if the Fleet Flagship (CR 12) controlling 12 other squadrons got damaged, well, there goes half of your fleet, as it can no longer control 6 of the squadrons. It was probably left out of that for simplification.

Gareth_Perkins · Post by **Gareth_Perkins** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:10 pm

Perhaps, but it does make perfect sense to me that crippling your command ship (or even a squadron command vessel) will cause havoc with your fleet,

You can always reassign the command ship after all, and there should be a serious benefit to attacking something that hard to hit (fleet command vessels have at least two levels of formation bonus),

That said, I agree that it's simpler to omit it,

MadSeason · Post by **MadSeason** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:06 pm

nimrodd wrote:As far as CR is concerned, I think it is left out of the Combat Factors modified by Crippling, because it would cause a lot of problems during combats if the Fleet Flagship (CR 12) controlling 12 other squadrons got damaged, well, there goes half of your fleet, as it can no longer control 6 of the squadrons. It was probably left out of that for simplification.

Sure, I agree it would be simpler, but sinking the command ship causes the same problems and is certainly not left out.

mwaschak · Post by **mwaschak** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:22 pm

Hi everyone,

Yeah, you guys are pretty spot on. While it is also a combat factor, CC is the only thing that does not reduce when crippled (wouldn't that be convenient).

-Jay